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Old 04-24-2007, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh View Post
True, however at airlines that have ASAP in place aircrews have better protections than that offered by ASRS. ASRS was created with all of aviation in mind, however over the years it has failed to grow with the safety concepts that airlines and national unions have developed for professional flight crews. ASAP is a much more appropriate program for part 121 operations, and it offers much more in the way of protections, provided that it is set up correctly and has union representation on the ASAP committee.
I would have posted a lengthy reply to you Blackhawk, but Josh said everything I was gonna say.

ASRS is great and is definitely better than nothing...but as a regular tool for modern airline pilots in contemporary times? No way! Between ASRS and ASAP, ASAP wins hands-down for its flight crew protections and active role in procedural change for safety.

In the P-56 example, you violate P-56 and file an ASRS and you will still get violated but may not lose your tickets for 120 days but you darn sure will get violated and that will show up on your record. Do the same and file an ASAP and the violation goes into a company ASAP file that nobody outside of you, the ASAP company, union and FAA reps will ever see and it will not show up on a PRIA check.
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