Originally Posted by
CBreezy
Airport reserve isn't a RAP. Short call or long call is. Airport reserve is flight duty. If you are on airport reserve prior to a flight segment, it counts as FDP. If you are on short call reserve prior to a flight segment, it does NOT count as FDP. If you fly a leg and are placed on airport reserve, then are subsequently scheduled to fly a leg, you must count all time spent in airport reserve as duty and cannot accept the assignment if you will exceed your FDP.
I just remembered something from a clarification I received: Here's where it gets really vague. If you are scheduled for airport reserve and pick up a trip at the 10 hour mark, assuming you start at 0600, you will only have 2 hours of duty remaining and the entire 12 hour period counts toward your cumulative for 168. If you are not scheduled to fly, the x hours you spent on reserve does not count toward FDP cumulative limits.
In the example above, you're correct in that it wouldn't technically be FDP until midnight. However, if you are assigned at 2200, all of it would count as FDP and need to be considered. It's no different if you are scheduled to deadhead at the very end of your legal FDP.
The moral of the story is, it is a legal assignment and no 10 hour rest is required prior to being assigned it.
CBreezy--you're right about ready rsv not being a RAP (per the definitions section). I think our main sticking point is when an FDP ends, and when airport/standby reserve is considered part of the same FDP.
My position is that an FDP ends when the brake is set with no intention of further ac movement, and that airport/standby rsv is only part of the same FDP when it occurs before or in between flight segments.
My position is backed up by explicit language in the statute andFAA Clarification letters, yours is based on assumption.
We'll find out who is right soon enough.