Originally Posted by
outaluckagain
I read your entire post, and I do see a comparison between widebody pilots and the rest of us. I do see that it was not the spirit of your entire post, but rather an example of what the rate is for a widebody pilot as it relates to the entire picture.
I still see a comparison. There is a drastic difference between a widebody salary and smaller aircraft such as regionals, so much that it is almost irrevelent what a widebody pilot makes compared to a regional guy.
In my point of view, regional rates are so low that it hardly does any justice to compare how much regional people work to their actual pay. The widebody part, well it just doesn't fit.
In the short term, I believe management will have to raise the pay significantly regardless of what type of duty pay pilots may be getting.
Anyway, no offense to you!
You can say you still see a comparison but that doesn't mean it's there. Of course there is a drastic difference between a WB Captain and a regional pilot but that has nothing to do with what I was attempting to convey. My message was simply about getting paid for duty hours versus flight hours. I'm going to try one more time and then chalk it up to the blinders you have on regarding the bad pay situation.
I used the WB Captain pay as the extreme in order to make my point. Which was that looking at our current monthly pay as it stands today, NO pilot would get their current hourly pay rate if we were paid for all our hours on duty instead of our flight hours. I could have attempted to make my point in my first post by typing:
"If we got paid for every hour we were actually on duty, do you really think a first year FO at a regional airline would make $20 an hour?"
But I don't think that would have been as effective since I was attempting to point out that ALL our hourly pay rates are inflated, especially the ones at the top(which is WHY I used that example). That's because we're getting paid on ~80-ish (give or take) flight/credit hours each month rather than the ~300-ish we spend away from base or the ~150-ish we spend on duty.
I think you're fixating on the fact that an RJ F/O probably SHOULD be getting his current pay rate for every hour he is on duty in order to make his compensation something close to reasonable - while you couldn't say the same thing about the WB Captain.
Clear as mud? Either way, I'm done. Cheers.