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Old 03-02-2014 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by APC225
The one instance that I would disagree with the stick vs yoke would be the stall accident into the Atlantic. It would have been absolutely obvious to all three pilots that they were working against each other. I'm sure the airbus has indicators showing that this is happening, but they were either missed or ignored. Seeing one guy pushing on a yoke while the other was pulling on a yoke would have given each other and the captain the realization that they were working at cross purposes. Whether a single accident caused by aircraft control confusion due to no yoke negates the advantages of a side stick is arguable.
I don't think one was pulling and the other pushing. If two guys are on the controls, it starts blaring "Priority Left!!" (or right), which means the other guy is flying, and you are bumping the controls. IIRC, there is also a gun-cross on the MFD that shows where the flying pilot is trying to command the aircraft. (ie, a stick-input indicator).

I think they knew the stick was full-aft, but the one or two times he unloaded, they got a stall warning...because that was when the airspeed finally went above 60 knots. Stall warnings are inhibited below 60 kts so you don't get nuisance warnings while taxiing or landing rollout with gusty winds.

Thinking that unloading was causing a stall, he pulled back....to avoid it.
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