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Old 03-13-2014 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gofastmopar
I flew EWR 756 fo for 13 years and can remember maybe three Capt 's of a certain vintage that at times would attempt to circumvent SOP. All the others were true pros and managed the cockpit in great fashion and adhered to SOP.
Flying the NAT's in ECON mode is 100% legal and the most efficient.
Since day one I had no problem with the FA's feeding revenue BF customers before the cockpit. To put yourself above smells of entitlement.
As a Capt. I too will look at the flight plan in my hotel room before getting on the van, but the official briefing is in the FPA. This allows briefing the FA's early about flt time/turb etc before the pax board. (When we're all on the same van).
I know of several fo's whose seats have been turned into IRO for training and they're all grieving it.
To bombastically claim the incompetence of a whole group of Pilots is a little too much to swallow....
I did not once use the term SOP.


ECON is SPECIFICALLY prohibited by international law. This is being elevated to the highest levels and I can't wait to see what happens.

Take a look at the other forum where there is a long thread on planning in the hotel. Suffice to say we must agree to disagree. I find that behavior incredibly unprofessional, unsafe, and harmful to our career.

You are heading on a 10 hour flight. Asking to put a meal in the cockpit at level off seems a small price to pay to keep the pilots happy and thereby presumably acting at their best. Seems almost trivial, and I honestly can't believe you would take the other side, but again we will have to agree to disagree.

Bombastic:

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Not feeling it. Just pointed out some observations, and it appears to have ticked off a few folks.

Never once did I say ALL or EVERY. Just said this has been my experience in the first 6 weeks. AND for that matter it was in response to Moomba saying it's all peaches and cream over at CAL and you all have no idea what you are talking about because you've never flown here.

I am, and I have.

P.S. Except for the first captain I flew with all the crew members have been fantastic. It's the processes that are imperfect, and I'm sure when the tables turn we'll hear plenty the other way around.
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