You all realized you are trying to talk someone out of, what is most likely, their first flying job. I think its safe to say when many of were in the same position these details were not so obvious. We should try and be less harsh and more productive. With that being said Emb170man was right on, both have gone out of their way to do the job for much less (both pay and QOL) then what little we were making in the first place. So no, you should consider other of the carriers before these two. Although I will admit, I don't know if this racing to the bottom for TPIC time has hindered any of these pilots careers, having worked for said airlines. Because if it hasn't, then hell, maybe it's the right choice, but just not morally, in my humble opinion.