Psa or gojet??
03-19-2014 | 04:46 PM
#102
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From: Captain
I don't take pills. I take whiskey with a splash of coke.
You called the initial pilots scumbags. The people at TSA were screwed by their MEC (Dario). G7 was going to be created to get around AA scope period. Not to whipsaw anyone. Uncle Hulas gave TSA the opportunity to fly those planes (no pay increase however for the larger frame) they said "No" They should have voted yes to get the flying then work on the pay later IMO. But they'd rather blame someone else rather than look in the mirror. But, I digress.
You called the initial pilots scumbags. The people at TSA were screwed by their MEC (Dario). G7 was going to be created to get around AA scope period. Not to whipsaw anyone. Uncle Hulas gave TSA the opportunity to fly those planes (no pay increase however for the larger frame) they said "No" They should have voted yes to get the flying then work on the pay later IMO. But they'd rather blame someone else rather than look in the mirror. But, I digress.
03-19-2014 | 05:51 PM
#103
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From: Frenchy plane/ Left
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They would still be flying under that same crappy contract now being paid less than GoJet pilots are making now. How do you agree to take the flying with a new contract extension 'then work on the pay later?' They'd still be trying to get a contract. Thankfully the pilots who think their jobs aren't worth a decent salary took care of that.[/QUOTE]
While not improbable that is pure speculation on your part stating they wouldn't have gotten a contract.
They would still be flying under that same crappy contract now being paid less than GoJet pilots are making now. How do you agree to take the flying with a new contract extension 'then work on the pay later?' They'd still be trying to get a contract. Thankfully the pilots who think their jobs aren't worth a decent salary took care of that.[/QUOTE]
While not improbable that is pure speculation on your part stating they wouldn't have gotten a contract.
03-19-2014 | 06:04 PM
#104
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From: Sleeping
To anyone who is interested.....
Regarding my attitude, I apologize to anyone offended. My goal on this forum was to get information that I needed and to pass along any tips that may be useful to someone that I had to learn the hard way. I tried not to get caught up in the "bashing" on this site, but I failed....
To clarify my input to ANYONE who wants to go from zero hours or anywhere in between to a "dream legacy" job......here's my two cents.
1. Get the TPIC any way you can.
2. Get the 121 glass time (turboprop or jet).
3. Don't forget that there are many people who would love to be sitting where you are.....even at a regional with a crappy contract....haha So, don't forget about the FAs, ground handlers, bus drivers, etc. that you interact with every day. You may inspire one of them.
4. If you are young enough with no wife and kid, maybe you can sacrifice QOL, good contracts, and pay to get the TPIC......many of us have slept in our cars in years past.
5. If you ever need help, ask.
6. Keep your record clean.....driving & flying.....minimize the pink slips.
Good luck, I'm out...
Regarding my attitude, I apologize to anyone offended. My goal on this forum was to get information that I needed and to pass along any tips that may be useful to someone that I had to learn the hard way. I tried not to get caught up in the "bashing" on this site, but I failed....
To clarify my input to ANYONE who wants to go from zero hours or anywhere in between to a "dream legacy" job......here's my two cents.
1. Get the TPIC any way you can.
2. Get the 121 glass time (turboprop or jet).
3. Don't forget that there are many people who would love to be sitting where you are.....even at a regional with a crappy contract....haha So, don't forget about the FAs, ground handlers, bus drivers, etc. that you interact with every day. You may inspire one of them.
4. If you are young enough with no wife and kid, maybe you can sacrifice QOL, good contracts, and pay to get the TPIC......many of us have slept in our cars in years past.
5. If you ever need help, ask.
6. Keep your record clean.....driving & flying.....minimize the pink slips.
Good luck, I'm out...
03-19-2014 | 07:09 PM
#106
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From: Captain
They would still be flying under that same crappy contract now being paid less than GoJet pilots are making now. How do you agree to take the flying with a new contract extension 'then work on the pay later?' They'd still be trying to get a contract. Thankfully the pilots who think their jobs aren't worth a decent salary took care of that.[/QUOTE]
While not improbable that is pure speculation on your part stating they wouldn't have gotten a contract.[/QUOTE]
Okay, that was 2005 and they wanted a 4-6 year contract extension (at the lower rates)...makes it 2011...plus negotiations for another 6 years (current regional negotiation average for those who don't take concessions)...makes it 2017 at best before a new contract that probably wouldn't be as good as the one they have now.
That would have stretched the 2001 contract to over 15 years.
While not improbable that is pure speculation on your part stating they wouldn't have gotten a contract.[/QUOTE]
Okay, that was 2005 and they wanted a 4-6 year contract extension (at the lower rates)...makes it 2011...plus negotiations for another 6 years (current regional negotiation average for those who don't take concessions)...makes it 2017 at best before a new contract that probably wouldn't be as good as the one they have now.
That would have stretched the 2001 contract to over 15 years.
Last edited by WarpSpeed; 03-19-2014 at 07:11 PM. Reason: Omission
03-20-2014 | 07:51 AM
#108
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From: Frenchy plane/ Left
Paid2fly,
Sellout? Nope. There was a job opening. I interviewed and was hired. I obtained my 1,000 pic time then left. Yes luck & good timing were on my side & I'm grateful I am no longer employed by Hulas holdings. It served it's purpose. If I were looking for a career regional I would have applied for Skywest.
Sellout? Nope. There was a job opening. I interviewed and was hired. I obtained my 1,000 pic time then left. Yes luck & good timing were on my side & I'm grateful I am no longer employed by Hulas holdings. It served it's purpose. If I were looking for a career regional I would have applied for Skywest.
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