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Old 03-17-2014 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
You really should read all of your posts since you got here just two months ago. The first few were fine, and then you took on this persona of "son, I know better than all of you naysayers". Really, man. Re-read your posts. Most come across as quite condescending, especially for someone who doesn't seem to actually work at any regional right now. I take it you may have worked at AE for a while in the past, however. but it doesn't seem it was for long.

Best of luck to you in your endeavors.

You are right, my apologies! I'll sum up my reason for being condescending.....

This is the first time in history that a gap exists between "daddy" paying the tuition and landing a flying job......seems to be where this generation is getting lost in the weeds. Stop whining and do whatever it takes to make your dream happen. Be a man and get the job done!! The End
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Old 03-17-2014 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
Hmmm. Root canal or Colonoscopy?!?
The colonoscopy. Yeah. Definitely the colonoscopy.
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Old 03-17-2014 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SimJumpSeat
You are right, my apologies! I'll sum up my reason for being condescending.....

This is the first time in history that a gap exists between "daddy" paying the tuition and landing a flying job......seems to be where this generation is getting lost in the weeds. Stop whining and do whatever it takes to make your dream happen. Be a man and get the job done!! The End
Ok, well, great. I get it. However, I truly hope that the condescension you (maybe unintentionally) portray on these boards doesn't manifest itself in your real life, because if it does, you will have a difficult time actually landing a "dream" job. Probably the biggest thing the airline interviewers look for during their face to face with a pilot is "Can our crews get along with this man/woman for 3 to 4 days at a stretch. Will he/she work well with us?"

I mean this with all sincerity. Almost without exception, the pilots I have flown with over the past 23 years within airline cockpits have been people that I consider super laid back, easy going, yet focused and disciplined when when required - in short, people that I have enjoyed being around.

Your internet persona does not come across as that guy. I realize, however, that people frequently take on a different persona online than they really are in their real lives.

Again, best wishes to you and your long term goals.
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Old 03-18-2014 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice
Ok, well, great. I get it. However, I truly hope that the condescension you (maybe unintentionally) portray on these boards doesn't manifest itself in your real life, because if it does, you will have a difficult time actually landing a "dream" job. Probably the biggest thing the airline interviewers look for during their face to face with a pilot is "Can our crews get along with this man/woman for 3 to 4 days at a stretch. Will he/she work well with us?"

I mean this with all sincerity. Almost without exception, the pilots I have flown with over the past 23 years within airline cockpits have been people that I consider super laid back, easy going, yet focused and disciplined when when required - in short, people that I have enjoyed being around.

Your internet persona does not come across as that guy. I realize, however, that people frequently take on a different persona online than they really are in their real lives.

Again, best wishes to you and your long term goals.
To anyone who is interested.....

Regarding my attitude, I apologize to anyone offended. My goal on this forum was to get information that I needed and to pass along any tips that may be useful to someone that I had to learn the hard way. I tried not to get caught up in the "bashing" on this site, but I failed....

To clarify my input to ANYONE who wants to go from zero hours or anywhere in between to a "dream legacy" job......here's my two cents.

1. Get the TPIC any way you can.

2. Get the 121 glass time (turboprop or jet).

3. Don't forget that there are many people who would love to be sitting where you are.....even at a regional with a crappy contract....haha So, don't forget about the FAs, ground handlers, bus drivers, etc. that you interact with every day. You may inspire one of them.

4. If you are young enough with no wife and kid, maybe you can sacrifice QOL, good contracts, and pay to get the TPIC......many of us have slept in our cars in years past.

5. If you ever need help, ask.

6. Keep your record clean.....driving & flying.....minimize the pink slips.

Good luck, I'm out...
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Old 03-19-2014 | 10:03 AM
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Why? Because he gets to sign the release? It takes 4-6 years at captain pay to make more than an FO at PSA, in which time that FO will have upgraded and make significantly more than said Gulfst.....Silver captain.

Let me ask you all this:

Silver Airways used to be a "pay to play" operation. Now, those days are decidedly behind them by what? 4 years? 5 years?

Why is Silver ok to work at and GoJet not when the whole GoJet fiasco happened 10 years ago? GoJet is just another regional now, the same way Silver is just another regional.

The original cadre at GoJet are scumbags for sure don't get me wrong. It is not the same place anymore though.

You people are taking away from my Titanfall time.
So, all of those TWA guys I flew with are scumbags eh? Be sure you verbally state this fact if you ever js on AA. The original cadre were TSA, TWA and Chicago Express pilots. Keep throwing your rocks.
Did I like my time at GoJet? Nope. Hated it. I used it as a stepping stone and it served its purpose.
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Old 03-19-2014 | 10:06 AM
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So...where do you work?
DFW Flightsafety. Quit AE because of Flowbacks.
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Old 03-19-2014 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Why? Because he gets to sign the release? It takes 4-6 years at captain pay to make more than an FO at PSA, in which time that FO will have upgraded and make significantly more than said Gulfst.....Silver captain.

Let me ask you all this:

Silver Airways used to be a "pay to play" operation. Now, those days are decidedly behind them by what? 4 years? 5 years?

Why is Silver ok to work at and GoJet not when the whole GoJet fiasco happened 10 years ago? GoJet is just another regional now, the same way Silver is just another regional.

The original cadre at GoJet are scumbags for sure don't get me wrong. It is not the same place anymore though.

You people are taking away from my Titanfall time.
So, all of those TWA guys I flew with are scumbags eh? Be sure you verbally state this fact if you ever js on AA. The original cadre were TSA, TWA and Chicago Express pilots. Keep throwing your rocks.
Did I like my time at GoJet? Nope. Hated it. I used it as a stepping stone and it served its purpose.
Take a pill buddy. I was defending gojet.

The initial cadre at gojet were used to whipsaw TSA and to sidestep their contract as well as AAs scope clause. These are rather unscrupulous beginnings. Were there some guys who got a raw deal there? Sure. It doesn't change what the airline was created to do, and what the initial pilots enabled.

Now, that is well in the past and should no longer be a factor.

Good talk.
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Old 03-19-2014 | 02:41 PM
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I don't take pills. I take whiskey with a splash of coke.
You called the initial pilots scumbags. The people at TSA were screwed by their MEC (Dario). G7 was going to be created to get around AA scope period. Not to whipsaw anyone. Uncle Hulas gave TSA the opportunity to fly those planes (no pay increase however for the larger frame) they said "No" They should have voted yes to get the flying then work on the pay later IMO. But they'd rather blame someone else rather than look in the mirror. But, I digress.
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Old 03-19-2014 | 03:12 PM
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The intial cadre of pilots were scumbags. You have no idea what you're talking about. People love to pontificate about standing up for the profession and not lowering the bar and then when the pilots do and get shafted for it "it's their fault." Please... Dario was a hardass but and he made some mistakes but that doesn't excuse what the company did. The separate certificates didn't need to be separate seniority lists. Gojet was created from the hard work of TSA employees. For the company to turn around and create a separate list was a spit in the face and shame on the initial cadre of pilots that enabled that to happen. It's been long enough that I've mostly let it go with guys that are going there now but the original pilots that start it will always be A holes. They must have really brainwashed the hell out of you for you to defend them.
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Old 03-19-2014 | 03:47 PM
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You see it your way & I see it mine. I DO know what I'm talking about. I was there.
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