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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:05 AM
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Live with what? Having great scheduling language that allows us to choose our own schedule and credit significantly more than we fly, bringing us right up to par with most other regionals pay wise, and above most QoL wise?

Sucks to be us.

Also most on this website chose to vote no.

So the real question is.....for a new 121 pilot....why not PSA?

I wouldn't go to GoJet. Not because of all the reasons everyone on here is going to give, but because they are stagnated right now and have a well below average contract.

Why go to XJT, or Skywest and sit on reserve as an FO for 2 years and then wait 7+ years to upgrade to a livable wage?

Why? So YOU like him better? Give it a rest. It's simply not realistic.
Easy there... when I say live with it, that's generalized, meaning that once you've made your choice, live with it and you shouldn't have to make excuses in a message board as to why you chose that place. And let's be real here, there's not one regional out there worth writing home about.... Also, asking why PSA or GoJet when there are others hiring and he's commuting from DFW is a valid question... Besides, asking about the basics of a company after you've got a job offer is asking to be blasted on these boards, everyone knows that. Only worse would be to not know anything about them on day 1 of indoc.

P.S. Page 6 and no reply from the OP, we've been trolled...

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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by nuneze23
If you're commuting from Dallas, Xjt also makes a lot of sense.
Living in base increases QOL exponentially. If you have a regional based where you live I'd put a high priority there, regardless of their contract. Commuting to a regional with out station basing is not an ideal situation.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:40 AM
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Easy there... when I say live with it, that's generalized, meaning that once you've made your choice, live with it and you shouldn't have to make excuses in a message board as to why you chose that place. And let's be real here, there's not one regional out there worth writing home about.... Also, asking why PSA or GoJet when there are others hiring and he's commuting from DFW is a valid question... Besides, asking about the basics of a company after you've got a job offer is asking to be blasted on these boards, everyone knows that. Only worse would be to not know anything about them on day 1 of indoc.
Why go somewhere else? I can see Eagle for a DFW base but if you are going to commute it might as well be for PSA because there is a chance of a "winning lottery ticket". Also, and this is pure speculation, PSA could easily have a DFW crew base in the near future.

You're absolutely correct about no good regionals which is exactly my point....Why Go to XJT, or Skywest and stagnate for years when you can go to PSA and have a pretty good chance at huge movement and relatively fast upgrades. PSA's contract is not glaringly bad. It's not the best one out there but it's also far from the worst.

The risk(which is pretty much none) is worth the potential reward.

By the way the same goes for Mesa, or Compass. Both regionals that are slated to have some big movement in the next couple years. Now is the time to get on at those places.

Edit: I forgot about the XJT DFW base. That is for sure something to weigh and is very important for QoL.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jaded
P.S. Page 6 and no reply from the OP, we've been trolled...
Haha, Agreed....
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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:51 AM
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I honestly think that PSA will be seeing some hard times in the future... I feel that AA has plans to shed future regional flying.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Why go somewhere else? I can see Eagle for a DFW base but if you are going to commute it might as well be for PSA because there is a chance of a "winning lottery ticket". Also, and this is pure speculation, PSA could easily have a DFW crew base in the near future.

You're absolutely correct about no good regionals which is exactly my point....Why Go to XJT, or Skywest and stagnate for years when you can go to PSA and have a pretty good chance at huge movement and relatively fast upgrades. PSA's contract is not glaringly bad. It's not the best one out there but it's also far from the worst.

The risk(which is pretty much none) is worth the potential reward.

By the way the same goes for Mesa, or Compass. Both regionals that are slated to have some big movement in the next couple years. Now is the time to get on at those places.

Edit: I forgot about the XJT DFW base. That is for sure something to weigh and is very important for QoL.
I understand that logic, and would like to believe it. I've just been to 3 other airlines in the past that was slated to be the next company to upgrade captains in less than 2 years. 2 furloughs, a bankruptcy and a failed seniority list integration later, I'm a bit .... well jaded... lol, the only thing that made it a little bearable the last 3 years of my regional stint was biting the bullet and moving in base.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Undrfly
I honestly think that PSA will be seeing some hard times in the future... I feel that AA has plans to shed future regional flying.
Unknown. I do know that AA is putting mainline acft on hub to hub flts like CLT-MIA, CLT-ORD etc.

PSA does almost no hub to hub flying other than the occasional CLT-PHL/DCA.

You could be correct, but why would AA go through the trouble of getting the concessions they wanted only to shrink said airline? It makes no sense. Not only that it makes way more sense to grow that airline to reap their perceived benefits, and flow the list to curtail longevity expenses.

Lastly, PSA is guaranteed to exist as at least a 30 acft company until 2023.

This all means nothing because we all know that if we think we have something figured out the airline will do 100% the opposite.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 10:09 AM
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Your right it wouldn't make sense... I feel that they are really understanding now that the regional flying is not sustainable with all of the new rules and staffing "issues". Maybe they plan on experiencing with a new bussiness model? The reason why I think this way is because all of the current contracts have been created prior to the current condition of the industry.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 10:43 AM
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You could be correct, but why would AA go through the trouble of getting the concessions they wanted only to shrink said airline? It makes no sense. Not only that it makes way more sense to grow that airline to reap their perceived benefits, and flow the list to curtail longevity expenses.

Lastly, PSA is guaranteed to exist as at least a 30 acft company until 2023.

This all means nothing because we all know that if we think we have something figured out the airline will do 100% the opposite.[/QUOTE]

Comair comes to mind! I love the word guarantee when it used with airline contracts. BTW you lost your OP.
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Old 03-16-2014 | 11:03 AM
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Has PSA hired the most junior captain for June 2015 yet? I haven't checked how the new hires are doing. Looks like 50+ a month right now starting class.
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