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Old 03-25-2014 | 02:32 PM
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jrav8er
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Originally Posted by FlyJSH
You raise some good points. See below.



Not true. Short answer is 1200 hours and SIC or autopilot in lieu of SIC. I have and currently fly 135 with pax and the FAA does not require an ATP; however, see below.




Prefer may work for some. But some 135 operations require ATPs to comply with state laws.

I left the 121 world to go back to flying air ambulances under 135. I work for a CAMTS (CAMTS | Anderson, SC 29625) certified company. CAMTS mandates higher mins than the FAA (including ATP for what normally would be a Commercial job), and some states require operators to be CAMTS to service their state. (How that works, a state superseding the federal government, is beyond my paygrade, but it happens)

Other certification groups also require ATPs.

The question is, what will these certification groups and the states do when ATPs become too expensive for an individual to pay for them.


Hopefully, my employer and similar companies will realize paying me a few thousand dollars more is cheaper than giving a new hire an ATP.
CAMTS, is a organization formed by flight nurses and flight paramedics and impose these rules, thinking that they know something about aviation just so the operator can wear a CAMTS logo on the side of the aircraft. If CAMTS requirements are not mandated by Obama Care or Medicare then I would bet operators will dump CAMTS and their circus act to get certified by CAMTS. For those who don't know what CAMTS is it would be like airlines being certified by AOPA or the EAA and wearing an AOPA logo next to the door as you board the flight. I spent many years flying helicopter EMS who happens to be CAMTS major target.
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