Originally Posted by
CaptainNameless
If you dig through the math a little, this is not quite that simple. And the brunt of the differences are also not an even burden between CA/FO rates. FOs at regionals are far worse off than FOs at majors using any math. The pay in dollars drops off a cliff, but the pay per aircraft size (pay rate divided by seat) is more messed up than drawing a straight line to make things better. Equivalent longevity XJT captains make more per seat than UAL captains, believe it or not. And don't forget that someone who makes 100K at a major is far better compensated than the same 100K if paid at a regional. The retirement alone increases major compensation 13-17% in B funds and superior 401k matching schemes. Better respect through flight benefits etc...
And newhire pay at UAL is $60/hr. Average narrowbody has say 140 seats there. That's $0.42/seat first year.
50 seat RJ at $0.42 per seat newhire pay is about $21.40. XJT pays $22.
So your linear math is already in place today on current pay scales.
My point is, the solution isn't drawing a straight line if the line goes below an acceptable salary. Regionals must pay MORE per seat to crews if they want to operate RJs. Add fuel consumption per seat plus increased crew costs per seat, and you see why RJs are going away.
I don’t believe it, if they made more to scale why unions would protect scope
10 year captain Delta Airbus 319 $200 Typical seat 134 = $1.49 per seat PLUS 16 %
10 year captain ASA captain CRJ 9 $84 Typical seat 88 = $.95 per seat
Also what really happens is the local union divides up the pay amongst the group, I doubt SkyWest mgmt would object to taking 10% from senior captains and giving it to junior FO’S. Net some zero for them and free recruiting. Also to your point about the 50 seat jets, they are going away so that linier extrapolation is going away, the vote tanked because of what’s above. The overall payroll deduction, by needing less pilots due to larger planes, should be enough to justify bringing in new planes why should the pilot group buy them with concessions.