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Old 04-11-2014 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
Somebody get's it. As soon as we make any gains, management will just pull a Compass out of their azzes. We need an actual union.
Finally were getting somewhere with this.

So a change is to maybe get a union that really serves the regionals. Ok.. Is that possible?
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Old 04-11-2014 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
Somebody get's it. As soon as we make any gains, management will just pull a Compass out of their azzes. We need an actual union.
After you get a Union you then need to stop supporting the politicians whose number one goal is the destruction of labor and all Unions. Pilots keep voting for people who spend their days and nights coming up with new laws and policies with the express intent of destroying organized labor so their buddies at the Country Club can run all over their employees in order to maximize their take. Those same pilots then wonder why they end up with crappy pay, work rules and loss most meaningful grievances and lawsuits. DUH!

Pilots are professionals but we are still laborers. The only way we can secure descent pay and benefits is through collective bargaining. We have to be able to have a voice at the table in order to be heard. Maybe we should try asking our politicians where they stand on collective bargaining and organized labor, rather than the other issues that are nothing but side shows when it comes to our careers. Let's only support politicians who support labor regardless of their party affiliation.
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Old 04-11-2014 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by freighthound
After you get a Union you then need to stop supporting the politicians whose number one goal is the destruction of labor and all Unions. Pilots keep voting for people who spend their days and nights coming up with new laws and policies with the express intent of destroying organized labor so their buddies at the Country Club can run all over their employees in order to maximize their take. Those same pilots then wonder why they end up with crappy pay, work rules and loss most meaningful grievances and lawsuits. DUH!

Pilots are professionals but we are still laborers. The only way we can secure descent pay and benefits is through collective bargaining. We have to be able to have a voice at the table in order to be heard. Maybe we should try asking our politicians where they stand on collective bargaining and organized labor, rather than the other issues that are nothing but side shows when it comes to our careers. Let's only support politicians who support labor regardless of their party affiliation.
What does it matter who is in office when th union itself encourages concessions at eagle, pinnacle, psa, xjet, and rah?
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Old 04-11-2014 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DryMotorBoatin
What does it matter who is in office when th union itself encourages concessions at eagle, pinnacle, psa, xjet, and rah?
It doesn't. One thing I always disliked about Moak is that he believes outsourcing and cheap outsourced labor (regional pilots) saves the legacy money which then lets the legacy pay its inhouse pilots more. This is a backwards way of thinking.
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Old 04-11-2014 | 06:33 AM
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I just love how Moak seamlessly went from sending the eagle pilots a letter about how they should take a 10 year concessionary contract to "it's all about the money" and how we need to raise the bar in the regional industry to combat the pilot shortage.
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Old 04-11-2014 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
I just love how Moak seamlessly went from sending the eagle pilots a letter about how they should take a 10 year concessionary contract to "it's all about the money" and how we need to raise the bar in the regional industry to combat the pilot shortage.
Funny how that works isn't it?
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Old 04-11-2014 | 07:00 AM
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Someone mentioned that you really don't have a union, but an organization. That is probably a very true statement. ALPA is a conflict of interest, they collect your dues to serve major airlines.
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