I've been trying really hard to maintain my optimism with regards to this company. Going on ten years here, and all I do is go backwards in both pay and quality of life. Now I'm more inclined to believe the ex Comair guys that would say, that's how it started out with us, and it'll be no different with you. Delta appears to be full of empty promises, and are flat out lying to us. I find it hard to believe that they are dumb enough to think that their actions go along with making Endeavor the "best "regional". They realize that they're unable to attract new hires or even retain a lot of the FO's, but they won't change anything to make things better. In my opinion their lack of actions are deliberate, and they'll just let this company shrink, and then blame the new ATP rules for their inability to hire. Then they'll have another huge tax write off like they did with Comair. Disclaimer: I didn't listen to the conference call, and this is only my opinion!