Originally Posted by GoHomeLeg

Look filling out an ASAP for someting you knew was broke is absolute stupidity. You are a pilot also. If its broke and you see it then put it in the can and call MX yourself. Otherwise you're saying "hey I knew this was broke and we left anyway". All the Captain would have to say is "my FO did not inform me of that". Who do you think would win that argument in Indy?

If you don't like a Captain dropping the break then tell them. Say something along the lines that you think it violates XYZ of the FOM. Maybe you're misinterpreting something that they can teach you about. If you don't like their answers then tell them you think you're going to have to file an ASAP. Problems tend to work themselves out when you learn to handel situations like an adult.

As for the rejected CBA: I completly understand why some "yes voters" voted the way they did. From a very technical standpoint we did "get" many of the things that were asked for. However the language was the sticking point with me. I know how this company operates and have little confidence that any of the percieved gains would have acutally panned out.

Loon you are absolutley correct about an "interm" CBA and that step-gains are the way to go. The only problem is that CBA should have been voted in 3-4 years ago. I know our negotiating history and the company doesn't deserve all the blame BUT if they want to attract pilots now then we are going to need a CBA that can do that. I do worry, however, that BB does not care about attracting pilots and simply wants a CBA to show that he can forcast costs. As you know BB cannot win new flying (by the looks of it) until he can forecast costs. Therefore BB cannot get an awesome "new flying bonus check" until he gets the 50% +1 to think a contract is simply enough. He wants his money and I want to be treated fairly. There is no reason we cannot have a contract that is a win for both of us. Because lets face it, we are not going to win unless BB sees that he can also get something out of it.