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Speaking of Seniority, How about those MD-11 First Officers?

Not fair. I mean, it wasn't fair what happened to many of our Memphis based MD-11 First Officers. Pilots who were junior to them were trained in the MD-11 for the Anchorage domicile, and were then transferred to Memphis before they could be trained. Why did the Company do that? More importantly, HOW COULD the Company do that? In my opinion, you can thank one Capt Frank Fato for that deal. In what has been since referred to as the famous Dark Parking Lot Deal, FedEx pilots were sold out, and had a contract dictated and rammed down our throats. "The Agreement" was a poorly written document, hastily assembled, and ratified by fear. As the contract, it allowed the Company to do what it did, even though it is clearly unfair, and abrogates seniority. We were stuck with the language, and could have never won a grievance over it. The union's decision in that case was based on a fiduciary responsibility to the membership, in not fighting a battle we could not win. Does that make it any easier to swallow? Not one bit. I got involved early on with that issue, digging through the contract to see how we might fight it. As unfair as the practice was, there was simply no way to fight it using the contract. The union did not abandon the seniority rights of the individuals affected -- they simply had no contractual footing to support a fight.

Tony C,
You are missing ther point if the rule changes as stated with no one over 60 at the time of signing comes back, then the back seaters have no contractual right too! They are still regulated from the front. Dave is trying to change the rule making so it becomes a contract issue.

I read what the union sends out and I had not noticed anything about Dave web actively seeking to change the rule making process to allow the back seaters a return until first of last week.

Also, since you touched on this, how is this any different than the parking lot deal with the leaders going against the majority? O I know the contract was voted on unlike this issue.

Also, I do not think the professional airline pilots I work with like you comparing us to kids playing in the street. I think we are much smarter than you give us credit for.

I really respect conviction if Dave really has a moral issue with the majority then he should step aside or do what we the majority pay him to do.