Originally Posted by
cargowannabe
Just curious how you know about the phone calls if they in fact did take place? Whatever your position from inside OUR Union you sure do make a good case for management.
BTW, I will not copy and paste the P2P notes I received from a P2P member, but the quote was something like "we will ALWAYS be told if we negotiate." Well I have not been at Atlas long at all, but I seem to remember the AQP stuff was talked about with the company BEFORE we were told (BTW not asked what we wanted to open up 66 pages of contract) and now the gateway travel stuff, kinda makes go UHHHHHH what do I believe.
The $1000 increase in pilot pay to $1 mil rev where did you get that number, supposition, quick math or a truth, sorry fact? You know thinking that through how are we still in bid'ness from the old pay rates to the new ones with the same guarantee??????
Again not trying to divide just asking a question?
As far as where people come from and how they seem to be talked down to, I would be embarrassed to be that arrogant. Really everyone here has a story. Some better, some worse but we are all in it together. I assume we all want the same thing. The best for ourselves and our family. The question seems to be just how to achieve that common goal. I truly think this group is tired of living in a mushroom field.
cargowannabe
Quite correct. Interesting however, the volume directed at the people here who have been around and have done it being dismissed by a group of vocal new folks who feel they are in a position to teach the course in how to do things. Listening and learning goes a long way to understanding.
Like the old saying, "better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."