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Again, a bit sensitive here. I never said anything about being mad at Mesa, or any Mesa pilot, for that matter. I was merely pointing out that his/her post was equally as juvenile. Could he/she not have simply ignored the post, as everyone else seems to have done so far?
And, btw, in case you didn't notice, I never blamed you or any Mesa pilot for anything. I'm fully aware of the harm that Dougweiser and Jerry **ASS have, and would love to continue, to inflict upon OUR careers. If you can't see how ANY aircraft showing up at DFW with "American Eagle" painted on the side would upset an Envoy pilot, then I don't know what else to say to you.
I am a bit sensitive--because after working for a now-bankrupt airline who treated me 1000x worse than Mesa, and after talking with multiple other people from Eagle/XJet/etc. who are now at Mesa for the quick upgrade, the broad consensus is that Mesa--at this moment in time--treats people far better than our previous "legacy owned" employers--regardless of contract provisions. I'm sure this will change eventually like everything else in life/aviation, but right now it's way better than Pinnacle/Republic/Eagle/XJet IF you have the financial capability to take the hit on FO pay until you upgrade.
I used to buy into the militant, unionist/"this is our flying"/"burn the house down" type rhetoric FaceBiter is throwing around in here. I've learned from experience that--at a regional level--it will simply bankrupt your company and starve your family.
Sorry if FaceBiter and others seem to have a chip on their shoulder about Mesa being a place to get a quick upgrade and get the heck out of this circus--if it makes you feel any better, most of the people coming on property right now are not SJS millenials or d-bags--they're very experienced people who know exactly what they're doing, and exactly what risks they're taking--people rolling the dice for a quick upgrade on non-50-seaters so they can have some short-term job stability, get some PIC time, and get the heck out of this racket.
At the end of the day:
1) We haven't voted in concessions to get any of the flying we're getting
2) We haven't flown struck work and won't
3) We have no TA to even vote on
4) We have essentially zero say in what AA or United does with us
5) In the very-near future almost 50% of the people on property will be new hires, most of whom are prior 121 people who had zero say in the current contract--the other 50% are people who have ridden out some of the worst bankruptcy moves in regional history, switching domiciles 4-6 times and going through downgrades with 5+ years of seniority.
In short, I'm sorry if folks at other airlines like FaceBiter are getting the short end of the stick for the first time in their careers right now--it's not fun, but everyone in aviation eventually has to go through it--rest assured almost everyone at Mesa (including the new hires) has endured their fair share of hardship in the last 5-10 years.