Originally Posted by ATCsaidDoWhat

I don't recall claiming to be superior, just to have been to the rodeo more than a few times and having the scars to remind myself about what works and what doesn't. It leads you to pay close attention to the words of Santayana, "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

That said, given the usual tactics of how many pilots view the approach to negotiations and dealing with management and how they are going to achieve their goals, it's pretty clear that not following the same failed practices of other carriers has worked fairly well here. And there are more than a few here who recall the strife created by certain individuals who insisted on doing things the way it was done elsewhere; actions that delayed the JCBA by several years and had a negative impact on the potential for even better gains.

From the beginning in the 90's, through a failed T/A to a ratified one, a bankruptcy, strike, merger and the JCBA, the pilots never lost on pay or benefits. They beat back AACS, which would have killed every job here and in the process got back profit sharing, stock options and helped unseat a management and reseat a new one with a new Board of Directors.

They cracked a code that you may or may not like. And yes, there are some here who sadly continue to believe that the "mission" is the only thing that matters.

That said, the question that needs to be answered by those with the "this is how we did it at Brand X" and "we want what we want when we want it" is whether or not to consider Santayana's words or to accept that constructive dialog may take a bit longer, but yields better long term outcomes.