Originally Posted by
FDX28
But he bid to a DIFFERENT position prior to going to training. So he GAVE UP that prior bid. Or show me in the contract where you hold that training slot even if you bid to another position. Show me in the contract where it says "if you bid MD11 in one domicile and bid to another prior to going to training, one shall keep his previous bid." I can't find it. I understand the reasoning behind it but if it's not in the contract the union was supposed to fight it. And they didn't.
I can't show you that, and you can't show where a pilot loses the training slot. I can show you where the Company can act in accordance with its needs in making that determination, and I can point you to past practices of the Company. They both support the Company's actions in this case.
Originally Posted by
FDX28
Tony, you said you got "screwed" because a junior guy got to MEM MD while you were in ANC. Did you get paid less during this time? How many tickets did you have to come out of pocket to commute during those three months? Most times I jumpseat it cost me approx $2 on company and $3 offline. Cookies don't cost that much. You're comparing apples to oranges. Perhaps you should have complained to the union then. $150 would have covered all those cookies.
I don't believe I said I was screwed. I said a pilot junior to me was activated in the seat position and domicile where I was due to transfer before I was transferred. Not only did it cost me cookies, it cost me crashpad and transportation expenses, and extra time away from my family. Whether it was $2, $3, $150, or $150,000, the principle was the same. My point is, the provisions in the Contract cut both ways, and the Union did not have a leg to stand on to grieve the practice.
Originally Posted by
Jake Speed
But he was awarded a new crew position prior to training for ANC MD11FO. Let's say Pilot B was a 727SO awarded but awaiting MEM B727FO (From Bid -1) prior to Bid #1. The MEM727FO slot is his so he should go to MEM 727FO training and then MEM MD11FO training according to your logic? The company would and has argued 24 A.5 to the understanding that since he is a 727SO and hasn't begun 727FO training and a subsequent posting awards him MEM MD11FO, then no 727FO training for you.
It's up to the Company, and the Company's "needs." They've done both. They have trained in order, and they have "skipped" training. It all depends on where they need bodies the worst. Nothing in the Contract requires they do it either way, drop or retain the training.
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