Originally Posted by
jsled
A4A didn't fight 117 tooth and nail because it requires less pilots! It requires more pilots and more money. Too bad. Oh, it didn't help us here at UAL much. Our contract was already pretty restrictive. In fact, many parts or 117 look like our old contract (duty restrictions based on legs and show times, 8 hrs behind the door). BUT, it did level the playing field. No more dirt bag outfit legal to start legal to finish. No more pt121 out, pt 91 back "legal" trips. 8:45 between duty assignments. We're all playing by the same rules now. Even Mesa, Spirit, ALL of them. I consider 117 a triumph. Along with KCM, that makes 2. Politics matter.
Don't know why you mention Mesa and Spirit by name, but Spirit's scheduling section was already more restrictive than FAR 117 to begin with. If anything, maybe it should read "Even Mesa, Continental, ALL of them."