Originally Posted by Kill Bill
i guess you need the ball-peen hammer between the eyes. so be it.
i find it incredibly IRONIC that the JB guys who, by their blind acceptance of everything l. ron neeleman farts, ****s, says, or otherwise spews, have helped lower the bar for the rest of us significantly. and here you are today, bemoaning the 190 payscales. what the **** did you expect??? YOU, and the rest of the "will fly for food" crowd willingly accepted sub-standard wages, benefits, employment, etc and now you weep and moan when the next logical step, the step you, yourselves, assured would happen, happens. you think the cheap-**** wages are going to be confined to the 190? you need to pinch yourselves awake.
too late for you guys now. you made the bed for the rest of us, now lie in it with us. and watch l.ron and his buddies start to bail over the next year. i have no clue who this "AL" guy is but i assure you, he is the first of many who will be deserting the JB ship in the months to come.
now you may want to watch "the philadelphia story" anyway; you guys are going to need a laugh pretty soon. and actually, it's more like 70 years old but still one of the best comedies ever.
Where do I even start...
There is no blind acceptance of Neeleman's or anybody else's "output" as you so delicately put it. I guess the guys for which you jerked gear, taught you well how to swallow Lorenzo's "output" after they crossed the line.
This is a 6 year airline. It takes time for organization. How many years before CO was organized? Not that it mattered to you. You hired on before ALPA? How DARE you!
You say we have lowered your bar. Why then do you pay union dues? Just say no. Can't? Why doesn't ALPA say no? Has ANY ALPA carrier said no in the last 10 years? You're saying WE should organize when you acknowledge your union is impotent? What's the point?
Now then;
Fact: You have low-paid commuter airlines feeding YOUR airline.
Fact: They have no chance of bidding for equipment on your seniority list.
Fact: They are flying YOUR routes, in YOUR colors, at a LOWER wage.
Fact: JB has an internal, lower-paid (but more than your feeder's) airline feeding JB.
Fact: 190 pilots are on the same seniority list as the higher-paid pilots.
Fact: In a year or two, they will be on the higher scale.
Gee, whiz, which pilots have a better deal? As if you cared about your feeder airlines...
FYI, Al is well over 60. He's our Senior D.O and a former CO pilot.
I have a few problems with AL, but he has earned his retirement. I wish him well.
I will check out the movie. The old, classic stuff has much to offer, thanks for the tip.
Question: Just for future forensic documentation, are you threatening me with a ball-peen hammer?