Originally Posted by R57 relay

You know, as much as you have been wrong, one would think that you would avoid calling other folks names.

We've been over this before. I guess you still don't get averaging. US had higher CASM and PRASM than AWA. We had what, 2-3 times the ASMs, so when you AVERAGE that, the CASM for the new airline is higher than what the west had. That doesn't mean that it cost more to fly from LAS-MCO than it did before. That is directly from Kirby. LAS was always marginally profitable for AWA, when fuel shot up it became unprofitable.

You guys weren't SWA. But even if you had been on par with them, even they didn't keep up their historical growth.

Don't take my word, take the AWA 2004 10-K. You guys like to say that Doug was blowing smoke, but the 10-k lays it out and blowing smoke on that can send you to prison. If you need help finding it, let me know, but here's a snippet:

"Price competition occurs on a market-by-market basis through price discounts, changes in pricing structures,
fare matching, target promotions and frequent flyer initiatives. Most airlines will quickly match price reductions
in a particular market and certain airlines have in the past engaged in retaliatory activities, including steep pricing
discounts in certain markets and termination of alliance agreements, in response to changes in our pricing structure.
Our ability to compete on the basis of price is limited by our fixed costs and depends on our ability to maintain
low operating costs. Our principal competitor, Southwest Airlines, and certain other low cost carriers have lower
operating cost structures than we do. In addition, the consolidation of existing carriers, the entry of additional carriers
including new low cost carriers, the creation of low fare airline divisions by several major airlines and the revision
of traditional pricing structures by our competitors in many of our markets (as well as increased services by
established carriers) has resulted in increased pressure on our pricing. For additional discussion of industry
competition and related government regulation, see “Risk Factors Relating to America West and Industry Related
Risks — The airline industry and the markets we serve are highly competitive and we may be unable to compete
effectively against carriers with substantially greater resources or lower cost structures” and, generally,
“Government Regulations.”"