Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
At what point do you acknowledge that the MEC administration has tremendous power to sway opinion, and that yes votes are not the same as confidence votes FOR the MEC?
It will be at the point you post something that you don't contradict later.
You posted this yesterday -
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
This is why you MEC insiders are such poor debaters. You get no practice within the echo chamber.
Which is it?
The evidence, such as your voting record when compared to the actual results of ratification ballots, indicates your views and opinions aren't shared by a clear majority of the pilots. I'm sure your perspective overlaps with the majority on some issues, but certainly not on most of them.
That's not a slam on you personally. It's a disclaimer that should be added to any of your posts that include such statements as, "The pilots want…", and "ALPA is out of touch with the line pilots."
Claiming that ALPA insiders perform Jedi Mind Tricks to sway pilots is an insult to the pilot group by suggesting they don't read and digest the Con arguments published by their reps (such as your's and mine during C2012 ratification). What's more likely is that your thoughtfully-reached conclusions aren't shared by most of your fellow pilots, and because you feel you reached them via impeccable logic, the only
possible alternative is that ALPA is hypnotizing most of the pilots to vote yes.
I don't think you can have it both ways: "ALPA guys are masters of persuasion" versus "ALPA guys are poor debaters."
It's simpler than that.