Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

I don't believe he's said we're actively negotiating for it. I think he's said that management is discussing this actively with key leaders in our MEC administration. I think that's clearly correct. My LCA friends are saying they hear the same thing about pay banding and increased freezes. I've not heard anything about pressure to reduce profit sharing from any credible source yet, but I sure don't know everyone.



Actually, it's not. It's called: Connecting dots. I remember how much you and others appreciated it when acl65pilot would connect dots around here.

The real story is that we are relegated to having to connect dots within an organization that we fund and ostensibly, works for us. Bucking Bar put it really well the other day when he described the Moak machine as an incredibly disciplined and focused political machine that knows how to keep their mouths shut. That's exactly how I see it as well. Mr. Moak's tactic thus far has been to march toward an objective that we members know nothing about, and will know nothing about until it's too late to change it. With that in mind, you have to connect dots, try to verify rumors as fact, and arrive at conclusions through the process of elimination.

Shouldn't have to be that way, but it is. Therefore, I don't think you can or should ridicule those who are trying to stay a few steps ahead on the chessboard.

Carl