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Old 10-13-2014 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Okay, let's compare:




The left side of the table shows how our strategy stacked up against any other strategy out there. The right side shows what happened when everyone else started to adopt our strategy.
No it doesn't. It shows how far individual airlines fell and how much had to be recovered. Southwest shows the smallest gain because they fell the least (meaning, they never fell period). USAirways gained the most because they fell the most. Delta fell a massive amount. Thus there was a ton to recover...which we're not close to doing given our strategy of COLA pay increases.

Also, would have liked to see Hawaiian in that chart. They actually used a different tactic by telling the BK judge to go pound sand...and their second offer was much, much better. How's that for a strategy!

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
This is the essence of the problem. Do you want a strategy that produces results and money in your pocket or do you want a strategy that produces rhetoric and noise
Giving up early and accepting the first offer before Section 6 negotiations even begin will always show results Alfa. That's not the question. The question is: Is that what the pilots asked DALPA to do for them?

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
I know Carl prefers rhetoric, noise, and deception, the majority of the Delta pilots prefer cash.
Yawn.

Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Carl still can't handle the fact that he is in the minority, his ideas have been proven to be failures and his propaganda (as seen in over 10,000 posts) can't carry the day.
I could well be in the minority. I just don't know. You know what would help prove it though?

1. Release the C2012 survey results.
2. Release the C2012 opener exchanged with management
3. If those documents show you got us COLA raises, profit sharing cuts and 70 more jumbo RJ's because that was the pilot group's priority, then you're right. I'm in the minority.

Carl
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