Old 11-11-2014 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
Guys, a few things.

To say that MIA would still be open, or if the eagle pilots vote yes then "X" would happen, etc - that is saying that management is purposefully allowing an employee group to dictate long-term business plans involving whole companies and billions in assets.

Does anyone here REALLY believe that management would put any labor group, especially the pilots (the only real commodity group) in the driver's seat?

Parker has said it himself, they are merely trying to lock in lowest cost as long as possible. That is parallel to, but not dependent upon their business plan. In other words, the business plan remains unchanged regardless of what they are able to do with labor. At best, the pilots may temporarily affect timing.

Also do not expect anything in the form of assurances of base decisions. Management would never, ever put that in writing. If it's not in writing, it doesn't exist. Anyone remember how long "...the foreseeable future..." was? It's a waste of time to even talk about keeping a base open as part of a deal. One only has to think back to the situations under which LA and BOS closed.

I guess if you repeat that to yourself enough times it allows you to sleep at night. Of course it doesn't help the thousands of Envoy employees in MIA whose lives have just been ruined. I'm speaking in particular about employees who are NOT flight crew members and for whom commuting is NOT an option. What do you suggest they do now, all knowing one? Being based in MIA I see first hand fathers and mothers who are now facing a very empty future thanks to people like you misleading the pilots and being very selective with your 'facts" earlier this year.

And stop being naive and acting so innocent. You know as well as anybody else that the E175s were to be deployed to MIA initially. It was made very clear and was a not so secret bit of information. Again, you are just being selective with your information. Just like you guys were very selective with the staffing information at other Regionals...perpetuating the myth that nobody could staff their current flying let alone new flying. The gullibale pilots at this company need to share the blame...they didn't need to fall for your misinformation and could have done research on their own. But don't try to reverse rationalize things now. You and the rest of the MEC from back in those days share responsibility for what is now happening at this company.
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