Originally Posted by
inline five
I'm still very confused on this whole "burn the house" mentality.
I can understand your confusion. It's typical when one cannot differentiate between "burning the house" and expectations of a FAIR and reasonable offer given the present economic situation of the company, the competitive landscape and the past statements of Parker himself.
No one respects a bull****er, especially a Jekyll and Hyde one.
Originally Posted by
inline five
Either we get a deal done here or we go to arbitration.
If we go to arbitration, everyone pretty much knows what the outcome is.
That seems to be the situation, except disagree on the outcome of arbitration. What's predictable is what Parker will build with arbitration and that is essentially nothing except almost certainly the same bad will of the past. But, alas, that may be just fine with him. The media is already on it with (not surprisingly) that anti-union hack Schnurmann already painting the new AA like the old AA (although that wasn't his intention).
Originally Posted by
in line five
The issue with the companies proposal is scope. There are some minor small things they also want, like night currency slots, which IMO would be a good use of that sim slot rather than have it go unused, and in comparison we get a fairly large raise NOW. This amounts to tens of thousands of dollars for the senior folks, and not an insignificant amount for the junior guys.
It's A LOT more then just scope. Actually, what it REALLY is, is not just a buck here or an RJ there, but about trust and mutual cooperation and where this carrier will head competitively. The contract terms are really just symbols of those ideals and its up to Parker to decide what message he wants to send now and forever to the pilots.
Your perceptions sound exactly like what Parker and Glass are trying to do and that's make this about JUST these issues. That's error, both on their part and yours if you choose to buy into that.
Originally Posted by
inline five
It sounds like the APA is approaching this like normal negotiations, when in fact it's not. Just like the FA's, if the company says no dice or we say no dice, we go back to what was originally agreed to. Not a bad deal, but assuming scope is a moot point in the offer I'm just not seeing how what we are getting is bad. We are not in section 6 negotiations now, we don't have any legal power to strike if we don't get what we want.
You've pretty much parroted the message Parkers propaganda piece was designed to put out yesterday. You sure you really believe all this or.........are you trying to manage expectations here ?
No offense, but my "suspicion meter" redlined in reading this post. It's totally involuntary and it is independent of my normal brain function, but I have to acknowledge when it goes off.