Originally Posted by
Diesel1030
mngt is very smart. The way I see it we are pretty much screwed into accepting this deal. An arbitrator is going to rule and end up making short call 2 hours and all those other points that are industry standard. We will see no gain from those losses. At that point we will be stuck on the agreed upon MOU rates which are the blended of UAL/DL which has us lagging. Its a long shot that Delta agrees to a new contract in 2016 which many people are counting on.
"Industry standard" isn't applicable in this arbitration. As an argument, it doesn't exist. It's strictly work-rule adjustment REQUESTS based on neutral valuation. That means to alter one work rule that gives them value, they'll have to give something in return that costs them the same value and they are limited to a maximum valuation. I'm not sure how much can really be moved around in work rules alone unless there is the ability to rebalance the neutrality with pay rate compensation. Each side makes requests and provides a valuation and the arbitrator (Bloch ?) decides the validity of the request, the valuation and the trade-off.
Originally Posted by
Diesel1030
If scope is truly off the table per Doug/Kirby discussion, then the only major source of contention is the contract date being pushed so far out in the future.
There are MANY major sources of contention, but ultimately agreement or arbitration, most of them will not be won. Yes, Parker claims that this isn't section 6, but he wants section 6 duration. When we want section 6 commitment from him, he scoffs. Parker = Horton. The old AA is here and the real winner won't be Parker, it will be Delta and likely even United down the road. AA's always been a good follower and has rarely, if ever led and it appears the future is the same.