Originally Posted by
Diesel1030
mngt is very smart. The way I see it we are pretty much screwed into accepting this deal. An arbitrator is going to rule and end up making short call 2 hours and all those other points that are industry standard. We will see no gain from those losses. At that point we will be stuck on the agreed upon MOU rates which are the blended of UAL/DL which has us lagging. Its a long shot that Delta agrees to a new contract in 2016 which many people are counting on.
I don't think either way is great (lots of unknowns)..problem is it was the hand we are forced to deal with when we agreed to the MOU. Mngt wins either way...
If scope is truly off the table per Doug/Kirby discussion, then the only major source of contention is the contract date being pushed so far out in the future.
How can we agree to that bar napkin proposal?
It is nowhere near a JCBA proposal. 95% of the required terms of a JCBA are simply missing. We will be forced to negotiate 100 LOAs to fill in the blanks, and every LOA will be a new opportunity for another management land grab.
We already have untold management abuses and contract grievances with a "detailed" MOU.
The MOU is as detailed as the Library of Congress compared to that JCBA Bar Napkin.
Why should we open up a never ending cycle of negotiating?