Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Translation: ALPA has no desire to be involved in any labor risk. All you line pukes need to adjust your ridiculous and unjustified expectations accordingly.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
ALPA or pilots?
ALPA.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
Is there any pilot group that doesn't have membership ratification?
Not that I know of.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
The pilots have agreed to these deals that you seem to think are substandard.
Correct.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
IOW your views are not in synch with the majority of the pilots who bother to vote.
That's where you ALPA spokespersons go off the rails. Many yes voters in C2012 did so because they felt it was the lesser of two very bad choices given the MEC administration maneuvered our reps into a no-win situation. I've spoken to many of them. While some pilots voted yes because they loved the TA, others hated it but had to acknowledge the dire consequences of what could happen with a no vote as stated by numerous MEC administration members during the TA road shows. Yes votes do not necessarily mean one is "in synch" with the majority.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
Pilots have also elected their reps although the vast majority of pilots don't even bother to cast that vote.
This MEC administration has made the local rep all but meaningless. Pilots electing individual reps is a meaningless exercise without a strategic plan to wipe out ATL reps. Until that happens, reps mean nothing.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
It is ironic that DPA came from the same pilot group whose pilots run ALPA and run it well IMO.
Richard Anderson runs ALPA, so not sure what you're trying to assert here.
Originally Posted by
Flytolive
We have seen the enemy and it is not ALPA. It is us.
Negative, it is ALPA. Ask any TWA pilot. Or Eastern pilot. Or Midwest pilot. Or unionized workers at ALPA. Or...
Carl