Originally Posted by
eaglefly
An interesting and relevant point. CLEARLY, 666 is a free-loading, union non-member. No one could spout (erupt is better description) the anti-union rhetoric he does and not be one (unless they're nuts). Most barnacles in this situation don't overtly attack the very structure that (for better or worse and like it or not) provide what financial gains they DO have and get. Most simply choose to quietly get as much benefit from the risk and efforts of others while contributing as little as possible. It's rare to find a volcanic rock thrower like this. Even the other management lackeys stooging who are on this forum fly a much more stealthy path then the continuous wild buzz-jobs reminiscent of a 5 o'clock Charlie, screaming and shouting, hurling insults and referencing violence.
It's perfectly OK to see this situation from opposing views, but I can't help wonder if there is some type of medical or behavioral issue going on here. Some forms of schizophrenia include delusion and paranoia similar to what I see here. Other undiagnosed personality disorders also include behavior not unlike that of a rabid animal whereby the afflicted person attacks viciously all who won't validate their point of view (not simply normal disagreement). They may be unable to realize the conflict in not caused by the rest of the world, but is inside their own head. Perhaps there's a substance abuse issue ?
The last couple of weeks have been quite a ride and I can only imagine what will occur once the SLI becomes the hot topic again.
Originally Posted by
PurpleTurtle
Why are you guys responding to this obvious poser? He is playing rope a dope while the company is pulling $4B a year and asking for concessions.
A poser shows up this month and you guys are roped in, while the company makes $4B, and is demanding concessions.
Get back on track. Now.
Originally Posted by
flybywire44
The ORD update by Todd was very reasonable. We are not in section 6 negotiations. Cost neutral arbitration will limit our leverage going forward as we have little negotiating capital aside from managements desire to avoid arbitration. However, they have a cost analysis threshold on the cost benefit of negotiation vs arbitration
Management's offer would be more palatable if we could drop the healthcare excise, 1 year contract extension, and HBT exemption (or make HBT waiver a case by case option at individual pilot discretion).
The reserve call out, e period sim for bounces only, combined Dom/int'l divisions, and quarterly bid runs are not big losses.
Exactly. 401ks are a capital control that lock money into the U.S. and particularly into Wall Street. 401ks pump money into markets so that they can later pop and be re-flatted by more 401k investment.
You see, there are a few cooler heads than EF and PT on this forum.
Fly I get your point and I have been arguing about that for twenty + years. The Federal government and the money flow has stripped what SHOULD be an entrepreneurial society into the Capitalist society we have now.
As to the other two, maybe I should have pretended to come on this board as a staunch left-wing liberal hard core unionist and encourage all the pilots to "burn the house down" and do a job action!
You see, wouldn't that "Machiavellian" purpose have been a better way for me to help bust unions, as you claim I am? But in reality after being here and watching you guys gut the Chicago "inexperienced" Rep I know that you don't need me to do it.....you'll do it yourself.
I don't see one drop of reason from the three blustering bully's on this block. (EF, PT and WD). And NO, I have NEVER backed down from "bully's" because guys like these have never done the heavy lifting necessary to run the union in the first place. Where I'm from they love to lobe grenades from the "cheap seats".
And I don't believe for one second the Company is "afraid" of arbitration. They are negotiating with the union so BOTH wind up with an equitable JCBA.