Originally Posted by
eaglefly
....My opinion is that Parker WILL want to salvage something and can still rehabilitate his image, at least with outsiders. If outright rejection was likely, that would have already occurred. Instead, they need time to evaluate APA's counter and to prepare a response. I believe that response will NOT be a rejection. It will be a "final offer" that offers SOME compromise, which was the intention all along (although bed wetters like Mr. 66 do give people like Parker and Kirby wistful looks of wishful thinking

) . Specifically (if that's possible), my guesses as to that compromise ?;
- The Pay-Scope "equation" will be balanced out so that scope is essentially industry standard (equal) to BOTH Delta and United (give or take a few jets), while Pay (minus profit-sharing) in their belief better approximates Delta's. That means look for an increase from APA's proposal of both 50-70 seat RJ's and 76-seat RJ's, but a decrease in fleet count overall. The pay will be upped to match Delta rates with a slightly increased sweetener in extra percentage for the absence of profit-sharing to approximate in the middle (7.5%+/-). Thus, both the major critical items will be close enough in the ballpark to be considered industry-standard or competitive.
- Most of their other demands will remain with IMHO, the exception of LOS which may see a "bump" in pay step (perhaps 2 years) for those who experienced furlough, but rejection of any LTD alterations or placing the 321 in group III. Instead regarding the 321, perhaps an "override" for hours actually flown.
This would fall in line with the intended strategy of the first proposal coming so late in the deadline (another reason for that was to use any F/A's rejection and subsequent goosestep to arbitration as a psychological block to multiple back-and-forth proposals on the pilots side - they may return to negotiations AFTER we vote on any TA and/or see a mediated result in arbitration). Parker wasn't sending a TIOLI proposal, so there HAS to be some wiggle room they were willing to make. It's a great strategy, if you look at it. Now, when they send their "final" offer back to the APA, it will be tough for the APA to reject it as they will look like the unreasonable and the demanding side. The "sweetened" offer (so common in these types of negotiations, IT is almost "industry standard") is substantially better then the MOU and the APA can say we've taken it as far as we can and between the two options, the "LBFO" (has anyone heard THAT before ?

) can be recommended with a straight face. Perhaps not accepted with opens arms by a percentage of the pilots, but this scenario has already successfully played itself out in the LBFO I rejection that resulted in the ratification of LBFO II.
It's a familiar kabuki dance, IMO.
Well, just a refresh to update the situation.
Apparently Glassker (or Parkass, if you choose

) has softened his "wants" just a tad, so it would seem that the strategy of some that the best approach was for the lazy pilots to immediately roll over for a good belly rub would have left value on the table and has proven at least at this point to be wrong. The 2-hour RSV callout has been retracted and substituted with industry comparable language of "prompt". The agreement to a 5:10 minimum day upon PBS activation and a one year LOS bump for furloughees. It's minimal movement at this time, but it is movement. APA has been floating balloons to see how the membership feels with mixed reviews, mostly in the negative although apparently the majority at the ORD domicile meeting of 8-10% of its pilots was reported to have stood up and cheered.
The BOD remains split, but clearly both sides want an out. I expect a few additional minor sweeteners and then the BOD will get just enough to punt to the pilots. THAT is where the wildcard will exist. It's going to be a tough breakdown again, IMO. Many senior (and U East) will vote yes and virtually all the furloughees will vote no. Then, there are the two ends of the bell curve with the "Delta or bust" crowd on one side and the "can we just get through this without being hit" crowd on the other. The middle of the bell can go either way. Tough to tell the real percentages there. I predict that aside from a deal that's passed to the pilots, a fairly close vote with the deciding victor in the approximate 55% range. That is based on a final product only slightly sweetened from what's presently known to be on the table.
Of course, the APA is good at packaging marginal deals to their pilots, so perhaps the deciding factor will be their salesmanship ?