Originally Posted by
prior121
FO's getting hired at Legacies without any TPIC time is like the one story we've all heard but we've never seen. (A can't think of a better analogy or metaphor than this)
I can call up a handful of guys in my phone at this very moment who have all been hired at Legacies in the last year; they all have had TPIC, plus impeccable backgrounds. (almost half of them have been CKA, bachelor and masters degrees at places such as UCLA, Auburn, Purdue)
I know of several people hired at Jetblue, Spirit, etc with no TPIC.
I think this airlinepilotforum trend of undervaluing TPIC is just flat wrong.
Probably because the majors haven't been hiring in the last decade. Now that they are, the first to get hired are the high time guys with resumes that set them apart. And military. And well connected people.
Why then would they lower their minimums? To propagate the pilot shortage rumor and seem more attainable for people considering aviation as a career?
The folks I have talked to seem to all say the same thing. The whole resume is what counts, not the flight time portion.
At the end of the day, everyone wants the same thing. Good pay and benefits, good schedule, and good treatment by management. How we get to that end state varies for everyone. We can debate the TPIC and its merits ad nauseum, but at the end of the day, an 8k hour FO whose seniority can't hold captain and an 18 month upgrade captain with 8k hours and a bunch of TPIC have been doing the same job, alternating PF/PM duties, but for more pay and debatably more responsibility. But whole crews are violated and held accountable, not just the captain, and we all have to have pic types and ATPs and meet the same standards for checkrides, so I give little credence to that notion. And I think majors agree, hence their dropping tpic from mins.