I'm not saying to not to chase upgrade's but it's how you go about it. Voting for a pay cut for expansion is what is going on right now at PSA/Piedmont/Envoy soon I bet, and that is what makes guys backstabbers. Places like GoJets, and if you remember, Freedom Airlines. I was here. I remember guys saying exactly what you just said above. At the cost of other pilots just so they could get their quick upgrade and bypass the normal wait time by moving up the list. So come here, get your hours, move up in seniority, upgrade, but just remember when you can vote, to vote for a better contract, and don't sell the place to get what you needed. That makes you a backstabber. This is why the regional suck so bad now.