Not exactly. There have been a lot of numbers thrown around over the last two months. The union keeps saying we will get a 16.5 percent raise on 1/1/16. I think it is more like 13-13.5 percent because it is an average of United and Delta. Let's not assume Delta will have a raise before than because they very well may not and that is pure foolish!

So we get 3% this year, 13.5% -2016, 3% each yr until 2018 when section 6 would open again and possibly no raises until complete which based on the past can be quite a while.

Jcba proposal would be delta + 3% retro to Dec 1. Delta is currently 15% ahead. So that is 18% raise now and 3% jan 1 2015 and then 3-3.5% raise each year to 2019? That is a 21% raise for 2015 + 3% in 2016 vs 3% 2015 + 13.5% 2016. 8% difference over same timeframe. The higher pay compounds each year and that doesn't include money lost in our DC accts, 16% at these higher rates is a good chunk of money.

So unless I'm missing something we would never capture Delta + rates that everyone thinks we will and what we get in our next contract remains to be seen. How anyone can speculate something that far out especially in this business is beyond me. At this point in 2020 Delta will be getting ready to negotiating yet another contract and we will be even further behind them due to being stuck at these mou rates.

The company offer is a turd, there are two key things that if improved would be enough to sway me to a yes.