Originally Posted by
Sunvox
So for those of you that do not have access to or prefer not to go either of the UAL forums I thought I would start a thread here to spread a rumor being discussed over there. What you do with that rumor is up to you. I decided to email my LEC, the MEC, and the big guy himself, Heppner.
Anyways, the long and the short of it is that a rumor came out saying the company had approached Heppner asking for Scope Relief. The guesses were many, but the one that sounded most plausible to me was the company asking for more 76 seaters in return for 737s or A319s instead of the SNB which is in the contract.
Now I don't know how y'all feel, but if there is any truth to this rumor then my answer is "Aww hell no!!!!!"
We buy 'em and we fly 'em! Otherwise forget it.
So, I emailed several folks and got silence or answers like yeah we had a briefing from the Scope Committee, but that doesn't mean anything. Many other folks on the other forums got similar responses to MEC members they confronted. The consensus amongst people posting on the thread was: Where there's smoke there's probably fire.
Conclusion: There is a chance that El Heffe is talking to the company about Scope Relief. If you think we need to hold the line and shout "NO!" then I would urge my fellow forumites to email Messr Heppner directly. That would be Jay dot Heppner at ALPA dot org
Like I said, it's all a rumor at this point, but I remember all too well how back in 2003 we woke up one day to find the a now infamous Master Chairman and gone and signed a letter giving away 70s without a word to the troops about what was coming or having asked anybody what they thought. Rather than take that chance again, I say let your reps know how you feel about Scope. Today. It might not make a lick of difference, but then again it can't hurt.
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Now the question is? if the SNB is not announced and the Co leased another 30 737-522's or 524's plus 30 A319-132's would that NOT be the same thing as the SNB??
I know scope is important to you but I heard management is now in a PANIC about getting more airplanes to allow the 76 seat E175's on board. So my question IS? Is there a DIFFERENCE or does the Co HAVE to buy the E190/195? Or? Is this another deal breaker?
I ask because there's no resource to field another Fleet type so it's either more A319's or more 737's. and they're all over the place trying to bring them on Board, I heard China and Russia.
So they seem pretty Desperate. 30 more A319's is going to increase My workload and I could care LESS and the 737's as well.
But I'm not sure any E190/E195 is going to do much for the operation.
And? I question Why the Pilots would specifically demand that fleet?
Especially since it gives us no operational advantage. I've heard guys say they'd rather deal with a petulant "FiFI" (A319) than the E190/195.
Though I in fact have never put a wrench on one of them so I can't say with TRUE knowledge. (As a point of Clarification)
I'm not trying to start a fight though I would like a considered opinion OK??
And By the way, Do you even have a Pay scale FOR a 737-500??