Originally Posted by Saabs

Good post WD.

I think people don't realize that we have the option to retain all current work rules in arbitration by keeping the green book.

I'm in my mid thirties so I have a few years left here. You rarely get things back once you give them up, so let's make it worth while.

International/domestic split given up for calendar day? Yeah that might be worth thinking about.

I'm on a 4 day right now. It's worth 17 hours, at other carriers it would be worth at minimum just under 21 hours.

This airline has too many red eyes to not have calendar day pay. And to yes voters, yes I know we won't get calendar pay in arbitration.

I believe both sides want a deal. Jan 3 deadline for the retro pay? I can live without it. That's a scare tactic. They want things from us. Does anyone really think they want a domestic and international little bus division? There is some leverage, am so think the deal will sweeten.

The overnight sim thing ? I don't do international wide body so I don't know much about it, but I'll listen to APA on it. Someone keeps brining up how it is a big deal with the 787 coming online. So let's not just give it up without proper research or compensation.

Attacks get personal on here and they shouldn't. I just want people to take a step back and realize this contract will echoe for the rest or their careers and those behind them. Let's not be blinded by pay rates a year early. We have some leverage and don't even know what the APA has in store yet. Their press release yesterday didn't show their cards at all.

Everyone here knows we aren't going to get deltas current compensation let alone their new contracts. To the yes voters compensation is different than pay rates.

It's not over yet, not even by a mile. But in the end, I am ok with the green book and prepared for it.