........but even with all that money, he still apparently can't afford taste. That place looks garishly awful. How appropriate.

 

LOA 93.1 (redux).

 

1700 West Pilots alone are going to vote yes just because they've been in PHX for 10 years without reaping the benefits of two mergers. Seniority means nothing to them so they will try to capture as much of this merger as best they can.

Its amazing what a geographic group of pilots can do to flip the bird to the rest of the group. Taking the money.

 

I agree, many will, but not all. It seems the West in this situation has been "Parkerized" more then any other sub-group here though. If anything, West pilots should be the most concerned about RSV callout provisions and language and HBT, both issues that directly affect QWL whether the latter adds jobs or not and where. That's because they will all almost certainly become commuters within 2-3 years, unless they already are to PHX or they plan to move away.

I feel for this group in that respect, because for them, their airline (and club) will essentially vaporize to melt within AA to become "only a memory, memory"...........

 

The West is unlikely to be concerned about HBT and the reserve callout provisions, because they didn't have HBT rules like AA, and the original 2-hour language was actually pulled from their contract. And many West guys do commute to PHX. To them, it's essentially the same rules they've been dealing with for years, minus the long-rig (which is gone regardless of a yes or no vote).

 

I started this thread and to end it I'm glad to see that 66% of us aren't so completely Stupid, in denial, completely self absorb, or consumed with Deorio disease "vote no because because I, you're self made, self appointed attorney don't know how or actually won't focus on anything else other than let me blame the current management for the fact that I'm not a wide body Captain working 8 days a month making 300k a year."
I know the work rules are not ideal but the LUS, East and West really need to take a deep breath and appreciate how far you have come. East guys, count your lucky stars that that your Even here to *****. By all rights USAir should have failed years ago, "bankruptcies anybody" and half of you guys would have been too old to go anywhere else and the rest of you would have been lucky to be new hires at AWA.
West guys, right back at cha. America west was NEVER going to become the next SWA, was itself hurting, remember who was first for bail out money? And at the end of the day would not have survived in its original form, with our without the 747's
Either way you have ALL come a looong way, from barely having a job and being somewhere just a few years ago that no one with a good regional job would bother to leave for, no military guy was willing to hitch his train to, either way we were the dregs of the majors, way behind even SWA. And now we are in a very exclusive, very small club of three, maybe not compensated quite as the deltoids, yet, but better than yonited and certainly in a better place that we were NEVER EVER going to achieve as USAirways.
Be grateful for the fortuitous changes that have come your way

 

[yawn]

 

You do realize that you (yes voters) sold what little leverage we had for a measly 7% pay raise over the life of the contract (vs the MTA rates). If you subtract the 4% the rest of the company got, its only a 3% raise.
Yeah the pay raise may be a little front loaded and you will gain a few extra shekels but we are loosing in the long run.

Not surprising that alot of L-US Capts voted for this debacle as 80%+ won't be around to see the next contract, in 2022+.