Originally Posted by Hueypilot

To answer your question, no, we don't lose our trip rigs. If anything we get a very small bump, but probably nothing you'd really notice.

It's interesting that everyone is saying "save the work rules". We don't really have any work rules to "save", and AAG isn't suggesting changing any of the existing work rules for the most part.

The vast majority of their asks are organizational, not really "work rules" related. It's already been dissected in other forums, but both the I/D combination and the HBT changes would result in about 100-300 positions lost out of 14,000+, but it could also have a net benefit too in terms of possible expansion of WB flying.

You need to understand how the whole MTA/JCBA thing works. There are some, from reading their posts, that seem to think the company's couple-page offer is their entire "contract", but that's not the case.

The current Green Book IS the contract, and their asks are simply amendments to that Green Book. If we accept this deal, we get the pay raise, and they get the modifications to the Green Book that they are seeking. Everything else already in the Green Book stays AS IS.

Essentially, this is the contract we are looking at right now:

Current MTA Green Book, except changes as follows:

- Replace current MTA pay language with Delta +7% begining 2 December 2014, with pay raises as listed by the company (i.e., 3% per year throughout the contract).
- International flying using FAR 117 HBT language
- International/Domestic divisions at LAA combined to be in line with LUS-E and LUS-W single-division structure
- Midnight sims for landing currency IF no other sim periods are available
- Replace "Reasonably available" with "promptly" for short-call
- Quarterly system bids instead of monthly (LAA...LUS is as-needed)
- Discussion of Cadillac healthcare tax and how to compensate pilots while keeping the plan value below the threshold (cost-neutral)
- One year contract extension (includes another 3% pay raise, however)

Additions to the Green Book:

- 2 years of LOS for furloughs
- Change of min duty period from 5:00 to 5:10 (minimal)
- Dropped mention of the 2 hour hard call out language
- Several other minor TAs such as passport fees paid, moving expenses, uniform expenses, etc.

All the other sections of the Green Book (and thus the current MTA) remain unmodified. So all this talk about "don't vote for it, you don't know what's in it" is not really true. Granted, we'll still need to see the final language to ensure nothing was snuck in (or out), but per the current proposal, no one is talking about eliminating trip rigs or any other current work rules other than the proposals listed above.