Originally Posted by
Bzzt
PilotJ3 you've got an awfully optimistic outlook and I hope it works out for you but your numbers are questionable. When I was at Envoy I did a lot of number crunching. I was an early 11' hire and even with this increased flow my upgrade was ~2.5 years off when you take into account the shrinking fleet size. As for the flow I was calculating over 5 years optimistically.
Unless someone lives in Dallas I cannot make a rational argument for employment at Envoy. There are 11,000 apps at United, how many of those applicants only applied at United? My guess is not many. I think you have 12-13k unique apps total between the 3 mainlines. Once hiring is going full bore at all 3 + Southwest, FedEx, and UPS that resume stack is going to shrink quickly. A flow is a nice thing to have as a safety net, and I do believe Envoy's new flow will operate as advertised provided they're able to find new hires, however I don't think a flow should be high on the list of things to consider when seeking regional employment. Eaglefly is correct in saying that other regionals are working on flow deals with mainlines as well.
I would say let the recruitment department sell the airline, you should be focused on updating your app and getting out before your flow number ever comes close to getting called.
I'm not staying here for the flow, I'm staying here until
I can go wherever I want to go. Im even trying to go off the street at AA. I'm Sorry if I'm too optimistic for you.
You're an where a 2011 hire, I'm a 2010 hire. Maybe more than 100 people between us, that's about 1 year difference in upgrade and 6months difference in flow.
Also remember you don't have to be a Ca to flow to AA as a protected pilot.