It stops 14 years of bleeding, and in all likelihood WILL open up a new round of negotiations contrary to the letter that negotations have ceased. The New American is at a crossroads for implementing its new culture. Would you rather have the pilots implement that culture, or have someone ram it down the pilots' throats and make it look like they were doing you a favor? Slice I know you look at the big picture and you have great points and have given me personally a ton of great advice. I know that you do believe in the good of all this. I just don't know that this is being done in good faith on their end (I say that with sincerity). For them to strongarm a pilot group that's been kicked repeatedly over the past 14 years when there is absolutely no reason to do so suggests that this is their way of prodding so see just how weak the pilot group is. They want to pay the least amount of money for the most amount of work, that's of course their goal. But our goal is to draw the line that they will know never to cross. A yes vote means more strongarming in the next contract.