Originally Posted by rickair7777

You're 100% right and usually only the folks who didn't grow up submitting to standard aviation abuse really get this point.

My opinion...

1) Eliminate longevity for pay purposes. Equipment/seat pay would be a fixed figure (subject to COLA raises). This would allow airlines to attract and retain entry-level talent, and remove most of the incentive to destroy a high-longevity airline and replace it with a low-longevity startup.

Longevity would still apply for traditional things like vacation accrual, 401k vesting, etc. so you do get rewarded for sticking around.

Seniority would still of course apply for schedules, vacation bidding, equipment/seat/domicile bidding.


2) A step further...eliminate block pay and replace with duty pay (like any other industry). Duty pay would be lower than current block pay, based on a formula like this...

Assume a five-hour block is minimum desired productivity, and say three legs is average.

Old rate: $100/block hour

New rate: 5 hours x $100 = $500 for the day.

Now we add up the non-flight duty for three reasonably efficient legs:
Report - block out: 45m
2nd Turn: 30m
3nd Turn 30m
Block in- duty off: 15m
Total = 2 hours

Block + non-flight duty = 7 hours. Since we got paid $500 for that reasonably efficient 7 hour duty day, our new duty rate would be $72/duty hour.

Ramifications:

- Company has incentive to schedule efficiently...non-productive duty time is no longer free to the company.

- If company can't schedule efficiently we get paid for our time.

- Super senior folks no longer enjoy windfall combinations of high pay combined with highly efficient trips while junior folks suck up lengthy unpaid sits combined with low pay and multiple legs.

- Seniority still buys many perks...you can bid long duty days to get pay more if you want, and still get weekends holidays off as always.

- We get paid for IROPS.

- Takes some of the sting out of switching airlines, but that shouldn't really be necessary since there would be little incentive to shuffle flying around.