I believe my post was from your earlier statement and quote in regards to the Process Agreement. You referenced the paragraph on page 3 SEC II (c).

A question was asked by a DAL F/O specifically about that paragraph and what the paragraph actually meant. The Answer was it means a vote for us and we have spelled out it's a vote for them.


Later in the same phone call - A HOU F/O asked a direct question about the rumors on whether the AAI pilots get to vote on (KEY) "whatever is negotiated", he states he understands that SWA pilots do and ask if the AAI pilots "have the same clause in their, in their contract or their By-laws" and do they have to put it out to a "MEMBERSHIP" vote.

YOUR NC leader - stated they actually agreed to that in the Process Agreement and was interrupted by the same pilot with a follow up -

asking if you all had to "worry about a couple negotiators or real senior people making decisions necessarily, kinda like what happened to the Frontier guys, they didn't get to vote....."
YOUR NC leader answered with that if you come to a negotiated deal -" both sides get to vote and how everyone had in depth discussions about that issue."

I did not do the word for word on all the above. I left out the stutters and "um's".

Not sure if you still have access to that recording on your SWAPA web site - go back if you like. I have the exact quotes.

The PA also states in SEC II (c) (iii) that SWAPA and ALPA agree to submit a negotiated deal to their memberships for ratification.

Everyone signed that Process agreement. ALPA put out an Executive Summary hours later. It said the pilots will get to vote on a negotiated deal.

How much clearer must I be for you to admit that what I say is FACTUAL.

Now, as far as what a few individuals did ie; the ATN ALPA MEC and did to not follow what was agreed to - not what is being debated here.

That phone call was over 1 hour and 40 minutes. It was the day after the Process agreement was signed by everyone. I know exactly what was asked and exactly how it was answered.

Where you one of those CA's or F/O's that asked a question and did you listen to the entire event?

I am sure you are aware of the lawsuit about several things but the MEC preventing a vote being one of them.