Not a ****ing contest Shy, but just a quick cursory glance says minimum at Virgin is 70 hours, minimum at Spirit is 72. Deadhead pay is paid at 50% at Virgin and there is the transition conflict.

These are pulled off of APC, not actual contracts so it could be different. There's pluses and minuses to both places, I'm not debating that. I'm debating the fact that we are the lowest paid Airbus pilots.