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Old 06-14-2015 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Offering good advice to the opposition?

slowplay! You're a closet NO voter! (just kidding) (or maybe not)

I actually think this post from slowplay brings up one of the little discussed factors that might help get this TA defeated. You can be a loyal ALPA supporter and still vote no. A no vote is actually helpful to ALPA.

I attended the MEC ratification meeting. There were many reps and ALPA admin types who stated openly that this TA was the best the union could do -- UNLESS -- it was voted down by the full membership. That would be the game-changer.

Donatelli says the MEC fired every bullet they had.
Does that mean the battle is over? Maybe not.
I think he's saying he needs more ammo.

A rejection by the line pilots would be incredibly powerful. Its never happened before on this property. That was clearly the thinking of some of our reps who voted to send this out to the pilots. A no vote from 12000 line pilots would do far more to empower the negotiators to go back in the room with management and fix this thing than would a rejection at the MEC level.

I think even ALPA believes that Anderson is over-reaching here.
They can't say it out loud for obvious reasons but our own union secretly wants this thing to fail. Just my gut feeling.
Not plausible Check. If it were true, we wouldn't be seeing this massive and well funded Internet campaign to (falsely) refute every post that advocates a NO vote. When you see the road shows portraying nothing but gains and refusing to characterize anything as a concession, you'll see the MEC administration desperately wants this to pass. The MEC chairman has said that a return to the table is "not going to happen" if pilots vote this down. The MEC chairman said that as a warning against NO voting line pilots.

Carl
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