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Old 06-14-2015 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Offering good advice to the opposition?

slowplay! You're a closet NO voter! (just kidding) (or maybe not)

I actually think this post from slowplay brings up one of the little discussed factors that might help get this TA defeated. You can be a loyal ALPA supporter and still vote no. A no vote is actually helpful to ALPA.

I attended the MEC ratification meeting. There were many reps and ALPA admin types who stated openly that this TA was the best the union could do -- UNLESS -- it was voted down by the full membership. That would be the game-changer.

Donatelli says the MEC fired every bullet they had.
Does that mean the battle is over? Maybe not.
I think he's saying he needs more ammo.

A rejection by the line pilots would be incredibly powerful. Its never happened before on this property. That was clearly the thinking of some of our reps who voted to send this out to the pilots. A no vote from 12000 line pilots would do far more to empower the negotiators to go back in the room with management and fix this thing than would a rejection at the MEC level.

I think even ALPA believes that Anderson is over-reaching here.
They can't say it out loud for obvious reasons but our own union secretly wants this thing to fail. Just my gut feeling.
I hear what you are saying, but it makes no sense.

If this is the best, fine. The MEC rejects it 19-0 and we wait.

What is the hurry?

This is the deal the insiders cut day 1 and they knew they had the MEC votes to pass anything, including this concessionary deal. The 11 wind socks voted yes.

There is no free pass. They all gave to go.
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