Slug, I just call it like I see it. But really...please...you don't have to go to all the trouble of proving me right.

When I got hired here in '07, I remember seeing some pilots at the sort that looked like they escaped from a retirement home. When I referenced the seniority list, and looked at some the DC-8 FEs dates of birth, I almost fainted. There were some guys that were born from 1930 to 1932. You guys can do the math. The simple fact is that some guys will never leave, unless they are forced to retire. With age 65 and no more Engineer seats, that would be most guys at Brown IMHO.