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How bad is it when the VHHH controllers tell a crew it the worst looking 747 they've ever seen.
#22
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Ignoring the corrosion issue that UPS may be facing since they're too cheap to paint airplanes, I preflighted the worst looking airplane (MD) in my 4 airline/20 years flying a couple weeks ago.
How bad is it when the VHHH controllers tell a crew it the worst looking 747 they've ever seen.
How bad is it when the VHHH controllers tell a crew it the worst looking 747 they've ever seen.
#23
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They do however, clean those package cars to a high gloss finish. And those are the things that are seen by your customers. For what it's worth, some of the FedEx fleet was also quite filthy underneath.
#24
He said that for years we all heard the most senior pilots here say "give us better retirement and we're out of here" - and then they all stayed. Don't blame them at all which is why I question your statement. I think we'll see very few retire "early" once we have a contract. Who knows..
This time, I think, things are a bit different. The demographics are far different. Most of us are now approaching 60 whereas very few were in that position before, and many of us will have 30 years, the maximum accrual in our A plan in a year or two. Nobody was close to getting a full A plan retirement in 06. While some start in a few years, the crowd of 30 year longevity guys starts to really pile on in the early years after that.
Again, when you look at demographics, a lot of people are in better financial shape after a few years of good pay, paying down or getting rid of mortgages, getting their kids through college, and maybe a home down size. Combine with the of "slope" in our schedules, i.e. the senior lines aren't a ton better than the junior, I think a lot of people will be in a much better financial and demographic position, and have had their fill of the brown funhouse than in in 06
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This time, I think, things are a bit different.
..when you look at demographics, a lot of people are in better financial shape after a few years of good pay, paying down or getting rid of mortgages, getting their kids through college, and maybe a home down size. Combine with the of "slope" in our schedules, i.e. the senior lines aren't a ton better than the junior, I think a lot of people will be in a much better financial and demographic position, and have had their fill of the brown funhouse than in in 06.
This time, I think, things are a bit different.
..when you look at demographics, a lot of people are in better financial shape after a few years of good pay, paying down or getting rid of mortgages, getting their kids through college, and maybe a home down size. Combine with the of "slope" in our schedules, i.e. the senior lines aren't a ton better than the junior, I think a lot of people will be in a much better financial and demographic position, and have had their fill of the brown funhouse than in in 06.
The optimistic side of me hopes you're right but the sceptic in me says no way, given choice the vast majority of people seem to choose more pay over time off. Not always but most of the time and that applies to retirements too.
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