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Old 07-16-2015 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Wasn't it the same guy answering who said "Skywest's stock price is cratering" and are facing huge imminent issues...yet the stock price is actually not far off a 2 year high? So you want me to believe him on the rest of his "facts" he uses to scare us into submission on why that's best for us? How many people have paid into the fund since its inception? How many will benefit from it when/if it is used? Answer: A fraction of those who pay into it. I say open up a vote for it and let the pilot group speak. But, it won't happen because ALPA reps know what is better for us than we do.

Sure they are volunteers and I thank them for it whenever I see or fly with them. But many get paid the same amount as they would flying to be home more with family...it's not the same as volunteering at the soup kitchen. I left my previous job to fly more, so I have no business volunteering to do this kind of work right. Otherwise I would.

Lastly re consolidation of regionals...it will happen. Do we need a merger fund to help out our seniority numbers? Maybe the lifers need it, but the majority of Mesa pilots aren't lifers and a merger won't really affect movement to a major for the majority of us. So again, this fund only affects a minority of the pilot group. Seniority for what is supposed to be a 3-5 year gig (that's using company numbers) doesn't really matter in the long run. This is apples to oranges when comparing it to DAL/NW, US/AW and other mainline mergers where relative seniority vs DOH affects people's QOL for a long time ((career airlines vs stepping stones). For regionals, with a high turnover rate, it isn't the same.

What should the union focus on? How about decent (livable) pay rates and QOL. Which is just about every section of our contract. How long have negotiations been going on? All areas can be improved upon. It is a fallacy that only a few things deserve attention because there is just to much. Oh there's no money left on the table at any of the regionals due to razor thin margins yet DAL just made 2.5bil profit in one quarter? Maybe the business model should change and FFD should go away. Maybe we should all be on the street applying to the majors who will need to recapture flying and take on CRJ9/EJET/C Series/etc., since we do the same job the majors do.

In a period of record profits by those who pay our companies' pay checks (applicable to all regionals), now is not the time to accept crappy contracts, especially with a pilot shortage. And our union should be jumping up and down echoing that sentiment and getting all ALPA regional pilot groups to echo the same. Why they aren't is beyond me. If there is no money to pay people what they are worth, change the business model. It is only because we accept it (by filling classes and not quitting) that we are paid these wages. We only accept it because it is supposed to be temporary and there are few other viable means to the end. And then temporary stepping stone jobs turn to a career job in which people are underpaid for a career, not just a few years.
Whenever I hear of a ffd carrier getting 30 airplanes here and there, my opinion is that the flying belongs at mainline. I'm definitely with you there.

However if the money isn't there, the company can't and won't commit to paying out what it doesn't have. It's simply not going to price itself out of business. The Mec also isn't going to negotiate unrealistically and ask the company to price itself out of business. Their purpose is to protect/improve our station, and that means improving everything we can without making our jobs disappear. There was a guy on the last Mec call crying about how the company must have money if they bought seven airplanes. I suppose he never heard of a thing called financing. You get awarded flying which is a guaranteed stream of money, and you pay for airplanes with the flying that they perform.

Sure the ffd model is has flown it's course, and is on the way out, I agree with you. However, the nails in the ffd coffin is going to be supply/demand, not negotiation under the RLA. DAL/AAG making record profits doesn't affect us much at all. We're a contract carrie; that means whether mainline is feast or famine, we get a flat fee, which happens to be crap.