Guys, when have you ever heard the company publicly say "we'll give something up."

Never. It's terrible negotiating. The company guys are pros. We are not. Of course they know they'll have to give up something. But they want us to fight tooth and nail for every last gain. And we should do the same.

Let's stop publicly telegraphing that we'll bend over for x, y, or z. Let them fight for it. Our public stance should be "we're not giving up jack **** in this environment."